Why PMs are suddenly valuable again | Tulsee Doshi (Head of Product, Gemini)

Tulsee Doshi

The model isn't predictable. It's like Snape's potions class. You can put all the ingredients in, but you also have to expect that there will be a little bit of magic. And that magic is going to be surprising.

Tulsee Doshi

We are looking for PMs who understand the vibes of our models or other models.

Tulsee Doshi

I actually think we do want to win the frontier conversation.

Tulsee Doshi

Traditional startup wisdom, you're just like, build an MVP that works.

Tulsee Doshi

But it is also to look at what comes out the other side and really identify where does the model shine, where does it actually look unique in ways that surprise you.

Tulsee Doshi

and I think Gemini 4 speaks a little bit to our strategy.

Tulsee Doshi

And so for us, actually deploying monitors that can monitor the model's chain of thought, and actually identify whether the model is misaligned with its directed actions or whether it is aligned, and then being able to intervene appropriately.

Tulsee Doshi

and being like very careful and very thoughtful and very intentional on the path to get there.

Tulsee Doshi

more and more so, we are looking for PMs who, for lack of a better way of putting it, like understand the vibes of the of our models or other models.

Lenny Rachitsky

Explain that.

Tulsee Doshi

And actually redid a number of the ways that we evaluated our products and our models to reflect that 10 skin tone scale.

Tulsee Doshi

If you will.

Tulsee Doshi

Yeah, I mean, I think of a harness is like the wrapper around the model essentially.

Tulsee Doshi

Like I think that is true.